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The
following is a verbatim interview with Michelle Valentine, Producer of
“Offstage,”
a local cable television program about local musicians.
How did you first become involved with cable television?
I got started when I got out of high school. I have always done
arts and crafts projects and I came up with the
idea of having an arts and crafts TV show, to
show people what it was that I do. Although I thought it was kind of
far-fetched, I wrote a proposal and sent it to the station and lo
and behold, a little while later they said they
loved the idea – and that was the beginning of
Michelle’s craft show.
Then, while I was in college I did another show called ‘Pet’s On
Parade.’ On this show I worked with animal
shelters attempting to find homes for hard to
place animals. This only lasted for two shows and then it was cut.
After I graduated from college, I happen to graduate at a time when
there
weren’t any jobs out there. One of the things I always wanted to do was be
in a
rock and roll band. Since I had time on my hands, I joined a rock and roll
band. I figured
before I get into the real world, with a real
job and stuff, I’m going to have some fun. And
so I did.
Being involved in music and going to the clubs was a completely new
scene for me. I wasn’t really ever exposed to
much of this type of thing, mostly because
everyone in this scene were men. Everyone I dealt with in the scene were
male.
There
was just the band and myself. I was a back-up vocalist. I was with the
guys all the time and had to put up with all their centerfold
pictures on the
wall, and you know, talking about girls as they passed by.
They did treat me as an equal, which was great, because I got to see how
the guys really are. In a way that was good, and
in a way that was not so good. All
in all, the guys were really great. To this day, we’re all really good
friends.
Having been exposed to the music scene, I came to find out there were
really no exposure for local bands. There is
print, radio (even radio does not do a lot
for local groups) and I realized the local bands were working so hard to
do so
much for the community, and were not getting anything in return. As a
result of
this revelation, I came up with another idea for a cable show, wrote
another proposal and it took off.
I got swamped with phone calls from bands and everybody is just looking
for exposure. In working with the bands, I’ve
gotten involved in doing other production work,
like promo videos for clubs, and things of that nature.
I eventually would like to start moving into demo videos and would like
to help bands out by not charging them an
astronomical fee. It would be more to help
them get their foot in the door. Thanks to MTV, if you don’t have a video
you’re
not anything.
It was really quite difficult trying to make the right contacts with
people and the endless phone calls to the club
owners for filming arrangements. Dealing
with the bands alone, some of who are so ambivalent about talking to me,
has not
been easy. However, as I’m talking to them, they come to realize that I
know what I’m doing. It’s tougher, in my
opinion, because of my gender. You have to prove
yourself ten times over than what a man would have to in order to gain
recognition.
The show has been airing probably over one year. In the last year we’ve
probably done 18 or 19 shows. We’re currently working on a new set. The
show’s
done very well. We’ve won Best Detroit Public Access TV Show
(Detroit Metro Times), 1993, which is
really great! We’re all very excited about it.
The station wants to make the show L.O. which means it would involve
sponsorship and advertising. I would like to do a lot with the show, but
my main goal is syndication. I’d like to get
the programming on a major network, I don’t care
if it’s Channel 62 at 4a.m.
Of course, we would stick to our current format of featuring just local
bands. We have filmed
and done some work with national bands, but it doesn’t mean I’m
being disloyal to local bands. It’s just that it kind of helps in
obtaining viewers. When it comes time for
sponsorship and advertisers, it’s going to be
very difficult to do, dealing with just local bands. Sponsors are
concerned who there bands are, that they never
heard of, and want to know where they are
touring. Hopefully, my goal of taking the show further will get as many
bands exposure as possible.
So far, the show is syndicated in 9 cities in Southeastern Michigan.
We’re waiting on some tapes to send to United
Artists which would mean 12 more cities,
including Ferndale/Royal Oak area, then there’s Booth, which includes
Birmingham and Bloomfield areas. MacLean-Hunter
is willing to air the show, they cover most of
the downriver area.
The stations seem willing, it’s just a matter of finding individuals who
can
submit these tapes to the stations on a weekly basis. It must be done
steadily to
be successful. Our goal is to gain access to as many cities in Michigan as
possible. I’ve taken calls from bands form Ohio, Grand Rapids,
etc., all who want to be included in the show.
It’s a weekly show and we try to feature two to three bands per show. I
would like to expand this, but currently it’s
chaotic enough having just two bands in
the studio.
What happens during the course of the show?
I have the band come into the studio and interview them, in an informal,
talkative manner. I do not work with a script. Prior to the show, I review
their bios and go over material which is sent
previous to the interview.
Whatever strikes me as interesting is what I base the interview on. I
don’t
even use notes. We just have an informal conversation, we usually talk
about stupid stuff. We’ll do that for a little
bit (about 10 minutes, but this depends
on how well the conversation is going.)
Some bands are very talkative until the camera starts to roll, then they
have nothing to say. When this occurs, I say
we’re going to take a break and when we return
we’ll look at a tape of them playing live, like at say Harpos. We shy
away from studio performances because they do not look as good,
visually, as the tapes. The stapes include the
audience and light, and are therefore more
exciting.
After the tape, we’ll do some more interviewing and that about sums it
up. The bands love it and keep in touch with me
long after the show has been aired.
Some of the bands have gone through at least twenty band members and
each time they change a player, they ask me to
come out and hear what they sound like now. It’s
pretty hard, because it’s not possible to see all the bands I would like
to
within the course of one week-end. I have a really great crew, that work
with me
on the show, and I couldn’t do it without them. That’s for sure.
Who are your staff?
Aside from myself, there’s Andrea, the production assistant, and
usually I have two camera persons within the
studio. On location I have one to three camera
people, plus an assistant assigned to each camera person. I always have a
technical director and a director, sometimes a floor manager, it
all depends on how much is going on the night we
are shooting. And then there are the graphics
people, who work on the credits for the show, an editing person, and
anything left over is added to the work load of
the people already mentioned. For example, the
director will occasionally do graphics, or the
producer’s assistant will sometimes edit.
Back to the staff, I’d like to say we have a woman who is a publicist,
and a woman designs my clothes. It takes a lot
to put a show together. Roughly, it takes ten or
fifteen people to do the show. I have the greatest crew in the
world and everyone’s heart is really into
the show.
How did you acquire such a superior staff?
Some of them are through the cable station, some are volunteers and
others are students who answered an ad I placed
in the South End asking for students who are
majoring in film, and want to get production experience. I don’t always
have the same staff, sometimes I have people from other cable
stations come out and help me with the show. I
had a camera man that I lost, to a better offer.
He’s now the camera person for a new dance show. He’s very good.
Outside the studio, it all depends on where we’re going, in regard to
the
person I choose. For instance, if we go to Harpo’s or the Ritz I try to
bring camera people who’s personalities are
suited to these venues. They’re apt to get
better shots, because they just really get into it.
It’s a lot of hard work, but it’s fun, too. I work a lot of the
week-ends, but
it’s worth it.
Do you think this will be a profitable venture in the long run?
Well, it could be profitable, but personally I’m not ready for it, yet.
The
station is pushing for it, but I’m not quite ready. Once I get this other
business I just purchased set up, then we’ll go heavy into the
advertising, sponsorship direction.
So far, there’s been no profit margin. I’ve even taken money out of my
own
pocket to continue on occasions. But I don’t mind, it has been worth it.
Eventually, once sponsorship is obtained it may be possible to pay
the bands for their time on the show, which I’m
sure will swamp my mailbox. No income is
involved in public access.
On TV I’ve only seen my show twice. I see it so often in the editing
room I’m no longer interested by the time it
runs.
Also, please mention, anyone interested in seeing the show, call their
cable station and ask them to air it. I’m also
interested in bartering with band
members in exchange for work which could be done on the show. We have
several
arrangements such as this.
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